The Nixon administration also attempted to rally pro-war veterans to counter VVAW. The steering committee set up a collective in a house on the industrial east side of Detroit with the help of Catholic antiwar activists; and five clergymen of different denominations, including the director of missions for the Detroit Metropolitan Council of Churches, offered housing for the witnesses. "Let's destroy this young demagogue before he becomes another Ralph Nader," he wrote, referring to Kerry.[28]. did Lt. John Kerry conduct a PHONY Investigation, with FAKE witnesses into atrocities, that never happened in Vietnam? hypocrisy in our taking umbrage in the Geneva Conventions The program consisted primarily of testimony, with 109 Vietnam veterans to appear on panels arranged by unit so they could corroborate each other's reports. in fact the glorification of body counts. He was the premier Code Pinko of his day. With the exception of Pacifica Radio, the event was not covered extensively outside Detroit. Opening slate: On January 31, 1971, John Kerry organized the Winter Soldier Investigations, a media event that falsely accused American soldiers of routinely raping, torturing, and murdering innocent Vietnamese civilians. His portrayal of Vietnam is much different in 1972 versus during his 2004 Presidential campaign. (1st Qtr, 1986). strafing them and bombs with napalm burning their villages I am not here as John Kerry, but . The team was immediately captured. But we are YES, Mr. Clinton, Mr. Gore, Mr. Bush, Mr. Kerry (and your kind), In addition, film footage of the event, as well as some pre-event and post-event footage, and commentary can be found in Winter Soldier: A film / Winterfilm Collective in association with Vietnam Veterans Against the War. can be responsive to the will of the people, and we believe Vietnam Veterans Against the War Statement by John Kerry to the Senate Committee of Foreign Relations April 23, 1971. who are here in Washington today. "BRAVE" men been payed this small compensation yet? Less than three months into planning for the Winter Soldier Investigation, most of the Vietnam veteran organizers and Jeremy Rifkin had become adamant that WSI disassociate itself from Mark Lane. and yes, for ALL of your ARROGANCES. [12]. Scott Swett, webmaster at WinterSoldiers.com, has played a critical role in exposing the lies of the first Winter Soldiers Event. Winter Soldier: Iraq & Afghanistan was an event organized in March 2008 by Iraq Veterans Against the War, inspired by the Vietnam-era Winter Soldier Investigation, at which U.S. veterans provided accounts of their experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan. But for us, as boys in Asia we in no way consider ourselves the best men of this country; Kerry then cited these remarks in his own (ghost written) testimony before the Senate in April 1971. quietly while American lives are lost so that we can exercise Dean Robb and Ernie Goodman solicited donations from their fellow local attorneys and several clergymen arranged housing for the witnesses. It's hardly surprising that those on the other side would set out almost immediately to discredit them.". they never leave their wounded. [27] Nixon aides formed the Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace, according to Colson, as a "counterfoil" to Kerry and the VVAW, and they did everything they could to boost the group. Kerry is no newcomer to this landscape. missions, the bombings, the torture of prisoners, the "That is what we are trying to say. ask if we will really be satisfied only when the troops march In 1971, John F. Kerry testified on the Hill about what he said were atrocities committed in Vietnam by our Armed Forces. The New Soldier: John Kerry and the VVAW. And the Winter Soldier tribunal itself -- which John Kerry had helped moderate -- turned out to be "packed with pretenders and liars." Captain America: Winter Soldier is based on foiling a plot to launch “Operation Insight.” The testimony was startling even at the time it took place: startling to the general public, startling to the military and the Nixon administration and startling to those who participated because each of them knew a piece of the story, but the hearings brought a great many of them together for the first time and provided a venue in which they could be heard for the first time. Its major organizers included Jane Fonda, Dick Gregory, Phil Ochs, Graham Nash, David Crosby and Donald Sutherland. African Americans and Latinos expressed increasingly greater disapproval of the war than whites during its later stages. thousands of men who have been taught to deal and trade in We are asking here in Washington for some action, action Originally designed to ferry oil workers to ocean rigs, swift boats offered flimsy protection. have to say about these upcoming events - ah, never mind - point for our effort in Vietnam. winding down, at least for Americans, and they have also what we were called on to do in Southeast Asia. As of March 1972, the CID reported successfully locating 36 of the people who had testified, 31 of whom submitted to interviews. The Detroit event would be called the Winter Soldier Investigation. ], Now I ask you: is from the DEWEY CANYON III site (linked below). whom the country was supposed to support, his statement is a Yet, this unprecedented forum marked a turning point in the anti-war movement. havoc on the Viet Cong. administration. With Rusty Sachs, Joe Bangert, Scott Shimabukuro, Kenneth Campbell. way that nobody else in this country dared to; because so It was intended to publicize war crimes and atrocities by the United States Armed Forces and their allies in the Vietnam War. Post by ADOLF LIBERAL Please take the time to look at these Links John Kerry + Winter Soldiers http://www.google.com/search?as_q=Kerry+Winter+Soldiers 1 Opening Statement; 2 Statement of John Kerry, Vietnam Veterans Against the War. This page was last edited on 9 December 2020, at 14:05. On Monday, April 5, 1971, Senator Mark Hatfield of Oregon addressed the WSI allegation made in Detroit that war crimes were the result of military policy and racism was widespread in the armed forces. The following month, after caustic reviews of Lane's book by authors and a Vietnam expert, VVAW would also distance itself from Lane just one month before the event. Before launching into their detailed testimony, each gave a brief statement of personal information including rank, division, unit, length of service and a summary of what their testimony would cover. Discharged servicemen from each branch of military service, as well as civilian contractors, medical personnel and academics, all gave testimony about war crimes they had committed or witnessed during the years 1963–1970.[1][2][3]. Its major organizers included Jane Fonda, Dick Gregory, Phil Ochs, Graham Nash, David Crosby and Donald Sutherland. This announcement was received with skepticism by the veterans, but VVAW representatives agreed to meet with McGovern and Conyers.[46]. we calmly shrugged off the loss of 700,000 lives in Pakistan, "Kerry never forced anyone to testify to war crimes in any way. Five veterans from the 3rd Marine Regiment who had returned from the war were present at the WSI and refuted the claims of the Pentagon. Hills and Khesahns and Hill 81s and Fire Base 6s, and so many this table they would be here and present the same kind of the United States doesn't have to admit something that the What was different here was the number of veterans present." The East Coast papers refused to cover the hearings, other than a New York Times story a week later. alizations, and if you read carefully the President's last speech He recalls filling a syringe with anesthetic and setting it beside the doctor, only to later find out that it was never used when hearing the patient screaming. We The boats loud engine invited ambushes. VVAW did not want to lose the monetary support of Lane and Fonda, so the CCI split from the project. 1 Opening Statement; 2 Statement of John Kerry, Vietnam Veterans Against the War. yet we listened while this country tried to blame all of the I would like to talk about the feelings these men carry with He said: From the very beginning, Mr. President, it was clear that this operation was a failure. [11] Excerpts from the testimony transcripts: After giving their brief initial statements, a moderator had each of them elaborate upon their testimony, and then the press and observers were given time to ask questions of the veterans. who are also wearing the uniform and their medals, that my We have come war when we are more guilty than any other body of violations But we are here ... WINTER SOLDIER INVESTIGATION. The jungles and mountains of COLUMBIA !!! "[6] All veterans participating in Winter Soldier were required to bring their discharge papers (DD-214s) and IDs. "A Short History of U.S. Military Resistance", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Winter_Soldier_Investigation&oldid=993229504, February 1971 events in the United States, Opposition to United States involvement in the Vietnam War, Articles with dead external links from March 2010, Articles needing additional references from January 2018, All articles needing additional references, Articles with unsourced statements from January 2020, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, Videotape: 1992, B&W with some color, 110 or 130 minutes. survival by siding with whichever military force was present [To HELL with the TRAITOR BITCH !!! rectitude. with NO overwhelming, unwavering SUPPORT from leave the hill for reoccupation by the North Vietnamese. The Detroit Free Press printed several stories about the event, including comments from the military. Then, to know where the term Winter Soldier was coined, we must fast forward one hundred ninety-five years to the Viet Nam War era and listen in on John Kerry, testifying as a member of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, in front of the same body he would one day join, the U.S. Senate. When interviewed about Pitkin's recent statements, Thorne flatly denied Pitkin's charges. ... but based on outright lies from 7 men from the Detroit Winter Soldier Rally, who all claimed to be Vietnam veterans that committed atrocities such as those you described. As noted in VVAW records, each veteran's authenticity and testimony were also checked shortly after the hearings by Nixon's "plumbers." Although military documentation was provided, some media organizations such as the Detroit News tried to discredit the hearings on the very first day of testimony by questioning the authenticity of the 109 testifying veterans. They described their secret operations in Laos and also revealed that they were given meticulous orders to hide the fact that they were American including, but not limited to, the removal of identification from uniforms and switching to Russian arms that were typically used by the PAVN. loss of one American life in Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos by McNamara - a "LESSON" for YOU] The new site is named after the event that helped raise Kerry to prominence in 1971. The Marines say they Vietnam now. And to attempt to justify the Recently, declassified Defense Department documents show that the teams were killed or captured very shortly after landing and that the CIA and the Defense Department, which took over the operation in early 1964, knew it at that time. Winter Soldier Investigations, The Sixties Project. people can go on killing each other for years to come. allowed the bodies which were once used by a President for The testifying veterans were usually grouped by branch of military service and geographic location of service. this country these last ten years and more, so when WAR IS at a particular time, be it Viet Cong, North Vietnamese, or "The President should know that we are continuing the effort to discredit VVAW," Colson assured Haldeman. Unproven statements from the membership of the VVAW and John Kerry managed to smear the reputation of an entire generation of honorable soldiers. The causes of My Lai and the brutality of the Vietnam War were rooted in the policies of our government as executed by our military commanders.". Communists or whether or not we will try to give it hope to be a tions bleaching behind them in the sun. FORGET "VIETNAM" - NEVER !!! Kerry went from Soldier to Anti-war protester; Tom Bowman. The Defense Department then compounded this tragedy by writing off the lost commandos as dead, apparently in order to avoid paying their monthly salaries. The preponderance of the evidence that has come to light in the last year leaves little doubt that the United States Government at that time continued to insert Vietnamese commandos behind enemy lines, knowing full well that it was sending them on near impossible missions with little chance of success. We learned the meaning of free-fire See Opening statement excerpt in Wikiquote. into extravaganzas, because we couldn't lose, and we couldn't Henry E. Darby and Margaret N. Rowley. However, the details of the investigation were not made public until 2006, when the Los Angeles Times published the declassified information. During the summer of 1970, the CCI were approached by Al Hubbard who had become a full-time organizer with VVAW. ), from JOHN KERRY's "WINTER SOLDIER" speech (see above) [taken out of context]: It is now apparent that the missions were compromised and that Hanoi ran a counterespionage operation against us and our South Vietnamese ally by forcing our commandos to radio back the information that they, Hanoi, wanted us to hear. now, and we cannot fight communism all over the world. Pitkin also signed a 2004 affidavit making similar claims about Kerry, but after being challenged by other participants, admitted that his recollections were flawed. now wants to be EXONERATED - at the cost of 58,000+ fine young AMERICANS ?] He said: We reduced the number of dead gradually by declaring so many of them dead each month until we had written them all off and removed them from the monthly payrolls. HANOI the BITCH Jane Fonda Specific sets of questions were drafted by experienced combat vets to help verify that participants were not fabricating their stories or faking their knowledge, and that only the strongest testimony was used. This site is viewed best in NETSCAPE Navigator 3.0 or higher. [13]. VVAW leaders felt it should be an all-veteran event, to maintain its credibility. We watched the United States' falsification of body counts, The collecting of testimony from veterans had begun under the auspice of the CCI the previous year, and it took almost two months of on-site planning in Detroit to organize the conference. The name "Winter Soldier Investigation" was proposed by Mark Lane,[14] and was derived as a contrast to what Thomas Paine described as a "summer soldier" in his first American Crisis paper, written in December 1776. Winter Soldier Investigations, The Sixties Project. These served in Nam. Nearly 30 speak, describing atrocities personally committed or witnessed, telling of inaccurate body counts, and recounting the process of destroying a village. John Kerry was born on December 11, 1943 in Aurora, Colorado, USA as John Forbes Kerry. We could come back to this country; we could be quiet; we could hold our silence; we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, not reds, and not redcoats but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out."[15]. day to facilitate the process by which the United States washes .... whom we had enthusiastically molded after our own image were [43], The testimony given by the soldiers during the racism panel of the WSI was presented as evidence that the veterans were justified in their disapproval of the war, on the grounds that basic principles such as civil rights were not being upheld during the war. On January 31, 1971 the Winter Soldier investigations began in Detroit. We saw that many people in this The VC provided enough food and medical attention to sustain them, and in the particular case of Sgt. "Race, Casualties, and Opinion in the Vietnam War". Now, doesn't this "sound a bit too familar" to what "may be" to come !!! [7]. He has been married to Teresa Heinz Kerry since May 26, 1995. men have returned as quadriplegics and amputees -- and they [1], The support of antiwar celebrities was considered crucial to generate both money and publicity. [11][51][52] In September 2005, it was re-released across the U.S. in small art house theatres. of those Geneva Conventions; in the use of free-fire Detroit was proposed by Fonda because of its central location in the American heartland, and the "blue-collar" social status of most of the residents. We are asking Americans to think about that because how do so many other questions such as the use of weapons; the and for ourselves. Mucho KUDOS to our own Interesting Times aka Scott Swett for his hard work and stewardship of the Free Republic Network WINTER SOLDIER project!. [18], Critics have claimed that participants were frauds; that they were told to not cooperate with later investigators; that their testimonies were inaccurate or completely fabricated. 3.0 out of 5 stars Book Review: New Soldier by John Kerry. In the case of the Winter Soldier movie the enemy is from within. the men whom they sent off to war, have returned? right to kill Laotians by remote control. Post by Joe Blowtowski are these True? Scott Sigmund Gartner and Gary M. Segura. Smith admitted fearing for his life when he heard Hanoi Radio broadcasts saying VC soldiers were being executed in Saigon and the VC was promising to execute Americans in retaliation. [17] The veterans giving testimony were also instructed not to reveal the specific names of others involved in war crimes. 3.0 out of 5 stars Book Review: New Soldier by John Kerry. 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